listen here!

If you’ve got a drive to make or simply some time to kill, why don’t you spend it with my good friend Lee Carl and me? We disagree on a lot, but it doesn’t ever stop us from having a good time and great conversation. Here we cover our mental health maintenance routines (up until 18:00), the role of government (23:00; 43:30), the media (32:00), capitalism versus socialism (52:30), why I’m misunderstood (84:24), and much more.


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